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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jan, 2011 5:16 pm Reply with quote
Hello All.

407 2.0HDI '04 RHR engine.

I have been told I need to replace all 4 of my injectors. Anyone know where I can get hold of some second hand injectors please? I'm not sure what they are but I know they're not Bosch - if they were I'm sure they would've been easier to source from Ebay...

Appreciate any advice as car has been off road now for 3 weeks Sad

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Saf.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jan, 2011 6:34 pm Reply with quote
Try dieseljones.co.uk to give you an idea of what your after and price.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jan, 2011 7:52 pm Reply with quote
Thanks 895cris!!

This is a really good website and looks like a reputable place. I'm gonna give them a ring first thing on Monday.

I assume my car has the Delphi injectors? As my car wont start at the moment I'm gonna see if the battery replacement helps (from my other post) and if it doesnt then ill cross that bridge when I come to it. I think my worst injector is number 4 (counting from the left...)

Many thanks!!!

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 5:34 pm Reply with quote
Hi saf

unlikely to be injectors on a siemens mate , if it wont start my guess is egr fault , remove the silver pipe from the inlet manifold / egr valve and then try and start

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 6:49 pm Reply with quote
Hi Crow.

I wish you were right, but I'm going off what Canyons told me. He checked them for me, pulled each one out and put them back in. Since then all im getting is vibrations and white smoke and really bad MPG. That was 3 weeks ago. He checked the operation of the EGR using PP2000.

CD's advised to replace the injectors as well as possibly the starter motor as the 'solenoid' is faulty.

Now the car won't start at all - I think the battery's dead (see my other post) all i get is a weak display and the fusebox makes a clicking sound, and nothing electric works. It had not been driven much due to the above reason so probably why its gone completely flat?

I wish you lived closer I couldve shown it to you.

Please help Sad

Saf.

PS - Incidentally if you're after an EGR I've put one on EBAY: Item number: 230576842510
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Jan, 2011 10:00 am Reply with quote
Hi

well you would be very unlucky , ive got  a fleet of 15 on siemens injectors and only ever had to replace 1 injector due to an elecrtical fault most of em have high 100 000 on the clock , If canyon has checked then ok and i dont doubt his injector scrutiny one bit , but checking egr operation on planet will not show you that the end of the valve has fallen off , as  the shaft will still move and record position if he s checked air flow readings and they are correct then fair enough ,

if battery and starter are duff then this can stop them starting period!! ive had this before ( it was starter) , GSF do a good replacement starter ( delco remi) try this first , if no avail then for the sake of loosening a few bolts 3 or 4 then its worth a try , we had one in recently that was diagnosed with injectors down , removed that pipe and hey presto started up !!

have you been running cheep fuel or failing to change fuel filter ?? on all of the break downs ive ever had  on a 407 that actually stop them running id say 90 % have been egr failure

hard luck if im wrong cause you wont get much cahnge out of 800 quid

Crow

P.S thanks for the offer on egr , ill pass as they are S%&t i have my own fix for them which works wonders  Cool
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Jan, 2011 9:11 pm Reply with quote
Hi Crow.

I've always used BP or Shell. Fuel filter changed twice since I've had it and I've done about 40K miles...

I'm getting a new battery tomorrow and I'll upate you on the progress.
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Jan, 2011 9:31 am Reply with quote
Saf

good luck with batt , just beware that starters can cause similiar issue , a correct jump should determine if its batt , or a voltage test on the battery after a charge ( it may not even need a charge) also the siemens injectors can be a pig to re seal , they are not fun to remove and install, so this may explain the missing that you experienced

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Jan, 2011 7:27 pm Reply with quote
Update:

Got new battery today. definite difference as car starts up albeit a little sluggish due to all the fuel leaking out.

Too much fuel is leaking out, leaves quite a pool below car (no undertray, fell off [long story]). I think that solves the mystery of battery vs. starter motor.

Now to get these injectors fixed up. I'm no expert but wouldnt CD have made sure he resealed them properly?

Its still misfiring but at least it starts up.

If I can't get hold of CD this week then I'm going to ring up this place 'diesel jones' and get a quote...if you're right then they should only really charge me for resealing the existing injectors and replacing injector 4 (scorch marks on the bottom part so assuming the worst).

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Jan, 2011 7:50 pm Reply with quote
Saf

Look , i dont know the situation surrounding the job with CD , but i do know that the siemens injectors are an arse to get sealed right , 2 things they either dont seal on the bottom of the injector and chuff while running or the return pipes come out  ( if CD has removed them completley then he has probably released the returns , and they can do 2 things , pipe can come of connector or the whole lot can come out of the injector , ( i am talking about the small rubber tubes that link to each injector.

also the studs that the injectors bolt down on are weak and its difficult to tighten them up enough for fear if snapping the studs

also new seals should be used as this helps seal em , if youve got diesel leaking out then my guess is one of the above and you may not require new injectors

im not going to critisize CD work , maybe when he ran the car all was good , these pipes can pop off when they feel like it once they have been disturbed, but i would imagine this situation aint helping your car much.

also if battery was issue and correct new battery has been installed then car should spin over fast , if it doesnt then it sounds like starter issue , failure to get this potential checked could knacker the new batt in time

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