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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2011 10:29 am Reply with quote
Hi there,

I'm having problems with my petrol 307, 54 plate, 60,000 miles.
I bought the car 5 months ago from friends who were emmigrating, they had the car for 3 yrs and it was only used for the school run.  I've been on Mat Leave since I bought the car, so again it's only been used for local travel.

From the service history provided by my freinds, and from speaking to them, they had probs with the Antipollution Fault during the last year they owned it.  Since the start of this year it's had the cat. replaced and the throtal head replaced before I bought it.  And she was running beautifully when I got her.

However, about 4 weeks ago I was driving and suddenly she stopped being responsive when I tried to accelerate.  The revs stayed low, and it was a real crawl to get her up to 50mph, if I hit any kind of a slope she'd just start to slow down even further.  I booked her into my own local garage for a check up, on the day I took her down the problem was so bad I couldn't get her over 30mph and that had to be in 5th gear, if she was in any lower a gear she'd just start chugging and I thought she'd stall.  

My garage had her for a week.  My friendly local mechanic became a bit obsessed with trying to pin point the problem and even spent his evenings and weekends trying to work it out.  The Diagnostics were identifying faults, which he was trouble shooting only to have new fault codes come up next time he connected teh diagnostics.  Eventually he asked if I'd give him the go ahead to change the accelerator pedal, which I did and I picked up the car.  On collection he told me that in 20 yrs he'd never had a car beat him...but my wee 307 had him beat.  Granted, she was running now, but she still lacked any ooomph in her acceleration and slowed down on any kind of a slope....I resigned myself to taking her to the local Peugeot garage.

She's been in since Monday and I'm due to pick her up tomorrow (fingers crossed!).  Peugeot have spent 5 hours on diagnostics!! (£££!) trying to locate the fault.  They have came to teh conclussion that it's the throtal body that needs replaced, and I have asked about a million times if they are sure sure sure that this is going to fix the problem - coz this has now scost me and arm, a leg and my heart and soul Sad - I've been told that they are certain this will fix it, but we'll see....  I'll give an update to let you know how she runs over teh next few weeks...

Should I keep her, or should I trade her in??

I have no luck with cars, and I can't decide if it's better the devil you know, or if I should get shot of her now before the fault reoccurs Sad Sad
Because I nearly always have the baby in the car with me I just hate not trusting or feeling safe in the car Sad
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Tortoise

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct, 2011 7:43 am Reply with quote
Hello again,

Well I picked up the car from Peugeot and she is now running great.... but I'm feeling like a bit of a mug.  
This has all just cost me over £500 :-/  

Details on the reciept read:

MEC  quantity 4
Checked for EML on, checked faults, found short to earth.  Removed air box, wiring ok, actuator tested throtal body found short to earth, required replacement throttle body.

Supplied and fitted throttle body.
SEAL PIECE
AIR INTAKE CA

But when I got home to compair my new reciept with the paperwork I already have for the car I discovered that the same Peugeot garage already replaced the throtal body for this car back in March of this year (only 7mths and 3000 miles ago).  Now, I did know the throtal body had been replaced earlier this year and that is why I asked them if they were really really sure that was the problem.  But on compairing the two reciepts the earlier reciept reads:

MEC  quantity 1
carried out diagnostic check for EML on, confirmed faults, aadvised new coolant temp sensor seal & throtle body & re-test incase of possible further faults.

MEC
Replaced throttle body and coolant temp sensor, re-s auto adaptives, tested ok
SENSOR
AIR INTAKE CA

Again this repair cost over £500.


Now, I really am clueless when it comes to cars, I'm the kind of person who just has to put blind faith in the garage and pray that I'm not going to be ripped off.  But now sitting here looking at both reciepts even I'm thinking to myself, 'Hold ion a minute!  This garage done the same work and replaced the same parts onle 7 months ago and the car's only done 3000 miles since then... this doesn't feel right,, have I just been fleeced??'

Would the original work have been covered by a warrenty??
Surely that repair should have lasted for years?
Why didn't they advise me that it was exactly the same problem, shouldn't they have tried to investigate why two throtal bodies needed replaced in the space of 7mths?

Have I just been stupid and paid over the odds for something I should have argued with them about before they done the work?

I'm going back into the garage today with both reciepts to speak to them, and my partner has asked me to ask for the throtal body they removed to be returned to us as he wants to run some tests on it himself.... I hate complaining and confrontation Sad Sad
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct, 2011 1:44 pm Reply with quote
Okay, hopefully my final update on all this Smile

I've been back to Peugeot and they were very apologetic that they didn't notice the last throttle head had been replaced by themselves and the work done within the year.  The car will go back in on Thursday for the old part to be re attached, the tests will be re-run for the sake of a print out needed for the warrenty paper work.  The new part will then be re-fitted and I'll get a full refund on what I've paid and hopefully that will be an end to the whole episode Smile

Have to say, if all goes smoothly, I've been really happy with Peugeots service.  Okay they made a mistake by charging me for the work, but the staff seem genuinly embarrased by their mistake and at no point have they tried to offer any kind of lame excuse.  They just took responsability and offered me the solution to the problem.  

Fingers crossed eveything is fine after Thurday.. if so, there will be no more posts from me and you can consider me a happy Peugeot owner Smile
No longer moving at the speed of a Tortoise Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Oct, 2011 1:15 pm Reply with quote
Well it's now Sunday and the car is dead again  Evil or Very Mad  Again there's no revs, the 'Antipollution fault' is showing  and the EML.
Back to Peugeot on Monday.... Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jan, 2013 7:23 pm Reply with quote
Hi Tortoise,

I have same problem, just pop up this morning. It was cold -6 the car was not still on normal working temperature.
Did you solved a problem? I hope it wasn't catalytic converter or some expensive stuff.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Jan, 2013 3:05 pm Reply with quote
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Im afraid it sounds like your exhaust Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) system is in need of service. I have recently done mine. There is no fault as such, its just going in to limp home mode to force you to get the issue addressed. Needs to be done typically every 70k miles. Typically the work involves one or more of these in order::
1) Top up the DPF fluid tank. In front of rear left wheel under the plastic tray cover.
2) Then you also need to reset the DPF Fluid levels in the ECU using diagnostic software. There are 2 counters to reset. The fault will continue to show if you do not.
3) The DPF filter in the exhaust system may need replacing, but in my exerience a regeneration (cleaning) cycle will extend the life of the filter for many 10ks of miles. This is performed on stationary vehicle using the diagnostic service command, or typically driving above 50mph continuously for about 30 mins.

If the car has done many many short journeys in its life, an automatic DPF regeneration cycle has likely not been executed, the filter may also need replacing. Generally don't get a diesel if you do a lot of short journeys as the engine will not get up to temperature and it causes more issues than you typically save in fuel (another threads worth 0-Smile
Parts:
Fluid 4l typically £100 or more.
DPF Filter (recon) typically £200-300
Labour as needed.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan, 2013 5:53 pm Reply with quote
Hi dfast,

I hope the advice posted above by robworks helps you because if your fault has the same cause as mine it will be a very sorry and expensive saga indeed.

The short story here is mine turned out to be a faulty wireing loom....this cost me £2300 in incorrect diagnosis, unnecessary rrpairs testing and finally the correct repair, all at my local Peaugot garage...with very poor cust service along the way.

After 6 months and threat of legal action i did finally get £550 of this refunded...

.... after throwing so much money at her I kept the car...and now have an oil leak near my timing belt and the head gasket is on its way out....cheapest quote so far on this is £800,

I hate this car and from doing my online research both the wiring loom fault and the location of the oil leak near the timing belt are common faults with 307s

Think I'll just be running her into the ground over the next few months while trying to save for a new car...and i will NEVER buy another 307 again Sad Sad
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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan, 2013 8:08 pm Reply with quote
hi there,
after reading this post i realised that some of you had the same problem as i did and that was a faulty MAF meter sensor which is located just after the air filter housing box, it has a plug connected to it, i was told to remove it and test the car with it unplugged and what do you know the car shot of down the road like a bullet i was pinned into the seat till i took my foot of the accelerator Laughing
im not saying it might cure your sluggish performance but its worth a try and if you dont get any satisfaction or improvement you could always reconnect it and it wont have cost you a penny in garage bills. Smile
and yes i did have the anti pollution fault on till i unplugged the connector and havent had it back since.
not sure if anything is affected by unplugging the maf i only know with it plugged in the car might as well be going backwards.
i aim to replace the maf meter sometime but at the moment car running great.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb, 2013 12:02 pm Reply with quote
Thanx for your message sir, i have been having same prob for a good while now and after no end of looking and probing it seems that you have come up with a simple and easy answer, at the end of the day if it works you can save yourselves a good bundle cos most of the garages no spend hours doing nothing charging you the earth and still no joy only explanation you get is that it could be this, that  or the other and spank you for 4/5 hundred bucks, well done and good luck
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maully217 wrote (View Post):
hi there,
after reading this post i realised that some of you had the same problem as i did and that was a faulty MAF meter sensor which is located just after the air filter housing box, it has a plug connected to it, i was told to remove it and test the car with it unplugged and what do you know the car shot of down the road like a bullet i was pinned into the seat till i took my foot of the accelerator Laughing
im not saying it might cure your sluggish performance but its worth a try and if you dont get any satisfaction or improvement you could always reconnect it and it wont have cost you a penny in garage bills. Smile
and yes i did have the anti pollution fault on till i unplugged the connector and havent had it back since.
not sure if anything is affected by unplugging the maf i only know with it plugged in the car might as well be going backwards.
i aim to replace the maf meter sometime but at the moment car running great.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb, 2013 10:45 am Reply with quote
Confused hello there ive got 1.6hdi what has had anti pollution faults since at least 17 4 11
ive had the car to more peaugeot garages than i care remember  dpf has been removed as the last straw  its been remapped and had programes added by peugeot to fix it and am sorry the engine lite is still on.......its not very often it goes into limp mode and when it does i pull over turn off and on and away i go
if id had the money to replace it i would  and its a great shame really because they lovely looking cars
my partner says im not allowed to buy a french car eva again
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