307 HDi 2.0 90bhp - possible DMF and some more questions » Peugeot 307 forum » Peugeot Central

Posted: Fri 08 Jan, 2010 10:30 pm

Hello, i hope to find some help here for problems with my 307 HDi 2.0 90bhp 2003.

Current main problem is having these symptoms:

When taking off the engine chokes and jumps a little bit, about 4-5 times before it eventually takes off and calms down.
When driving more hard, taking over, wheels slipping on snow or doing anything to make it run on higher rpm i can smell a strong clutch (i think) smell. I can't really feel ( i tested with handbrake) a clutch slipping bit since all started i feel a loss of performance (turbo kick in not so apparent, no more pull me into the seat kind off felling it used to have at about 2000rpm and taking over seems harder and engine louder, but turbo sound is still present where it should be).
I can't seem to change gears smoothly anymore and it's like the clutch bite point has raised to the very top of the pedal.
Gear stick is a bit stiff and won't always easily go into the third and reverse (it was like that since a bought the car used 2 years ago).
There is a little jump around of the engine when turning it off.
When i accelerate from the cold start i hear beep beep beep (as if the handbrake was pulled) and goes away after a minute of driving. Happens only if i'm hard on the pedal just after a cold start.

My best guess that it is a clutch or dual mass flywheel (seeing the price makes me want to cry) or both. What do you think based on the symptoms?

Other (not) related questions:

I think it has some sort of alarm that is blinking yellow/orange on the dash by the lock button. What is it really for, what it reacts to?

I have fog lights and if turn that same knob once again something else (orange light of some sort) lights up on the dashboard, looks like the rear fog lights but nothing happens on the back....?

What does autovolume do on the cd player?

In two years very few times i had an airbag warning on the dash (nothing on the multi) and it goes away after a restart. ?

Since i bought a car i tested it a few times to see how fast would it go and it always stucks at 3000rpm in fifth gear doing about 150kmph and then just slows it's acceleration and needs another minute or so to get to the 160kmph if it ever gets there...??? I don't think this is the max for this engine, something is fishy, more so cause it stops accelerations so noticable when it reaches the 3000rpm 150kmph point. It goes fine beyond 3000rpm in other gears (better to say used to before the onset of current problems).

I'm very sorry for the lenghty post, if anyone has any answer to any of the questions i'm very thankful!

Posted: Fri 08 Jan, 2010 11:38 pm

Posted: Fri 08 Jan, 2010 11:50 pm

Before I try and go into some ideas which I doubt will be all that conculsive - it would be much easier to take a look.

Where abouts are you?

Welcome to the forum btw.

Posted: Sat 09 Jan, 2010 3:09 am

Thanks for the answers both...

@ Sylvester - might be, i already had an coolant level issue last summer (thou there was a message "top up coolant" on the display), the plastic valve on the top of the engine broke and leaked... i'll check for the level.

@ canyondust - I'm sorry but my pug wouldn't get me that far considering it's present condition, i'm in Serbia. Any wild guess what might be wrong would be of much help so don't hesitate. Mechanics over here a.... well i'll have to go to the garage with some ideas or they replace the living hell out the car (at my expense) just to conclude it wasn't it, so i have to get armed with possible ideas to put them on the right track....so please if anything sounds familiar plase suggest what might be wrong.

Thank you and nice to be here.

Posted: Sat 09 Jan, 2010 12:22 pm

The does indeed sound like an issue with your clutch - whats the mileage of the vehicle? Also check clutch actuation - get someone to depress the clutch while looking at the end of the clutch actuator fork.
However - I think the main diagnosis wil require it coming to bits.

Light I think is the immobiliser light.

Fogs should be two lots of lights, one for front one for rear.

Not sure about autovolume - vehicle speed related?

Airbags would need diagnosing properly.

As for your 3000rpm issue - is the engine light on (MIL) ?

Posted: Sat 09 Jan, 2010 3:06 pm

Thanks,

It's done 120k. DMF was never changed. I read it's lifespan is about 5 years. So mine's done 7 years and probably dying.

I've been to the garage today and they suggested the clutch and/or DMF, probably worn clutch due to DMF failure. I think it's the best bet to open it up and change the whole set including the DMF.

About fogs... hm then i suppose mine had blown bulbs since i got it, i changed rear bulbs myself recently i probably missed that some bulbs are not working at all. Will check it, where are the fogs situated on the back lights panel?

Autovolume... don't know, not so important, i'm just curious...

Car had a diagnostics recently and nothing came up strangely.

MIL light only lights before the actual startup along with other lights, not while driving. That "no more than 3000rpm in fifth" is real mystery...not that i'll ever really drive past 150kmh but might be indicator of a underlying problem.
Any wild guess?

Posted: Sat 09 Jan, 2010 6:25 pm

What was it diagnosed with?

Will it rev freely out of gear?

Posted: Sat 09 Jan, 2010 8:50 pm

I don't really know what software was used but it was done at the best car-electrics garage around here, the guys really know what are they doing and are kind of legends in car electrics and diagnosis around here.

Yes, the rpms just jump over to the end of scale without much effort on the pedal.

Posted: Sat 09 Jan, 2010 8:53 pm

So why cant they tell you whats up with it?

Posted: Sat 09 Jan, 2010 9:22 pm

No DMF on a 2.0 ltr HDi 90 I think youll find

Crow

Oh and if i had to take a punt ( Bet) on your sluggish performence id say air flow meter as they dont always activate the engine management light when faulty, live data / code reading is needed really.

unless your clutch is that bad that its affercting performance by slightly slipping??