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Andymac

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008 10:44 am Reply with quote
We have a 54 reg 307 HDI 90 from new with 56000 miles on the clock which has been good on the whole but has a bad suspension problem.
There was a repair to both the front and rear suspension early on under warranty but there has been an on-going rear suspension fault almost from new, which the main dealers have been unable to identify and correct.
It occurs when there are three or four people in the car, and is worse if we carry luggage.
Certain types of potholes or bumps cause a loud crash from the rear suspension area and passengers in the rear say it feels as if there is no suspension.
As the driver, I feel it comes from the rear suspension, which sometimes seems non-existent, and this can be very alarming.
The whole of the rear of the car seems to be very low-slung with the ground clearance below the rear bumper approx 7".
The main agents claim to have checked the suspension in the workshop and/or on road tests at every service and sometimes between services, but say there is no fault.
At times we feel like just taking it to the breakers as there is little pleasure in using it with the constant worry.
Has anyone else had similar problems or know the correct suspension heights?
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Re: 307 rear suspension

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008 11:08 am Reply with quote
Hi.

Essentially what set it up is the spring and torsion bar.  Sounds like you have a very strange fault.

The setup is very simple (and effective) (appreciate there have been a few mods to it looking at the parts list) and shouldnt give any bother.

If you want the drawings and parts for it give me a shout.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Apr, 2008 6:16 pm Reply with quote
A few weeks back I was driving round London with five in the car (three in the back) and I noticed the exact same thing (had me worried), the front went over the bumps as expected but when the back end of the car went over a bump (not even a particularly bad one) the suspension acted as if it was not there, with a hard shock being sent through the rear of the car which could be felt in the front, almost as if it was hitting the ground!

I must say that the suspension heights on the car look spot on (have not measured them tho). Maybe it is just the way the rear suspension handles the bumps when compressed with extra weight i.e. disappears. When there is two sat in the back the car handles the bumps fine but when the car is full the rear of the car is not very comfortable.

Would the shocks caused by the bumps be causing any damage to the car? Anybody else have the same problem?
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Apr, 2008 6:34 pm Reply with quote
I suspect you have a lower or upper shock mounting gone - they dont do this normally - in fact its one of the best improvements they made over the 306.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Apr, 2008 9:52 am Reply with quote
Thanks davidleeis14 for the reply. It is reassuring that another 307 owner has the same experience. After talking to the main agents I normally come away with the impression it is all my imagination and that the car is perfect.
To me it seems either a design fault or parts below specification.
The 307 is sold as a 4/5 seater and therefore should be able to take up to 5 with some luggage.
None of the passengers I carry are of excessive weight so the car should comfortably be able to handle a load of 4 plus a reasonable amount of luggage for holidays, days out etc. Unfortunately it cannot, which is all most frustrating.

Canyondust - thanks for the info. Perhaps you can send me the appropriate drawings.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Apr, 2008 9:59 am Reply with quote
Andy - I fix these regularly and have never had anyone come to me with that problem.
I tow a trailer with mine with a kit car on it and never suffer (boot full of tools and cack).
I personally beleive the design is fantastic - the best part of the car.

Send me an e-mail and let me know what you want and I'll get on it.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Apr, 2008 1:51 pm Reply with quote
Hello canyondust
Thanks for your prompt replies.
What we really want is the car put right free of charge by Peugeot.
I have been driving since 1958, from old wrecks to new cars, and never has
rear suspension quite like this.
We bought the car new from the local Exeter main dealers in Sept 04. It has
been serviced there and also at their Honiton branch which is easier for us
to get to.
They have both checked on the ramp and on the road and say everything is
correct mechanically. Unfortunately the fault has not occured during road
test.
Our small local garage did recently come out with us for a
road test when the fault did occur and they agreed that it seemed as if the
rear suspension bottomed metal to metal. They put it on the ramp but
mechanically all appeared OK.
Just before warranty expiry the main dealers did say they had recorded our
complaint on the computer and that Peugeot would be likely to be sympathetic
if the fault was later identified.
I cannot recall exactly when the problem started but it was soon after
purchase. I complained almost from new about suspension noises which is why
they replaced part of the rear suspension and then part of the front
suspension under warranty.
I am not sure where we go from here as we are in East Devon and you are in
Huddersfield.
I look forward to your reply.

Regards
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Apr, 2008 2:11 pm Reply with quote
Hi Andy - emails are better for me - i can track them easier - get so many queries.

Anyway.

These types of problems are always difficult to diagnose as its very hard to simulate road conditions in the garage - often even trying to find which axle the problem is on is tricky enough.

I think personally you clearly feel and realize there is a real problem, your small local garage as an agreement with you.  From there I would look to find a suitable garage that specializes in suspension and wheel alignments - it may even be a motor sport garage.
Somewhere that has equipment that can suitably load the rear wheels and vehicle.  Hopefully you then find the fault and can then go to Pug - the risk is you pays your money and still don't find the fault.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr, 2008 3:25 pm Reply with quote
Hmm

My wife's 307 cc did something very similar even when lightly loaded.  Sounded like there was a loose bolt/ linkage/something in the rear just behind the front seats. When I went over a bump something knocked.

As she did very low mileage (14k in 3 years) and she didn't complain I put it down to me being sensitive.

Anyway the car was changed last month so it's not our problem anymore.
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