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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr, 2011 1:18 pm Reply with quote
Hi

Recently changed oil filter, cambelt and now having problems getting the thing started. Engine starts with no problems and then cuts out after 2 seconds.

I have removed and bypassed the immobiliser, replaced the stop solenoid with standard one and checked that 12V is present at solenoid.
Have also bled air from fuel system but still same thing, For a few seconds engine revs and sounds good but then immediately cuts out. Have double checked the timing and all seems OK.
Any ideas where to look next?
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Re: 106 1.5D Starting problems

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 9:11 am Reply with quote
If it was fine before you changed the cambelt then it's possibe the timing is incorrect.
No offence if you did it yourself as I'm not trying to imply you set it up wrong!

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr, 2011 8:29 am Reply with quote
No offence taken.

I have triple checked that all lines up according to Haynes manual.

The engine starts and sounds good, I understand that if timing was out it would either not start ( timing miles out ) or would sound very rough when running ( timing slightly out ). Is this correct ? Apart from alignment of all the timing holes is there any other way to confirm timing is set correctly?

As cannot get car to mechanic have spoken to several and they have suggested that fuel line has air lock somewhere or possibly a leak in the fuel filter seal. Have refitted new filter and currently bleeding system to try to eliminate that possibility.
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr, 2011 6:48 pm Reply with quote
Yes it certainly sounds like an air leak if it starts and runs fine initially.
Check all the fuel line pipes - both input ones and returns.
When I had my 106 diesel it was running a bit lumpy sometimes and I located a very small leak in the fuel pipe.
Wipe them down thoroughly and check for diesel weeping out.

Also if you can get the car started then constantly pump the primer bulb while the engine is running this should keep it running.
You can then check for any leaks or air bubbles in the pipe if it has transparent sections.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr, 2011 11:06 am Reply with quote
Andy

Thanks for input, I am still stuck. I have tried constant bleeding until no air bubbles. I have loosened the injector pipes while cranking over and fuel definitely coming through,

Tried you suggestion of pumping bulb when starting and no joy but did notice that when engine starts bulb completely collapses for a few seconds. Also tried some Easy Start to see if it kept everything going for longer but still no joy. I have traced all fuel pipes as far as I can see and no obvious leaks. It is driving me crazy and not pleasing the missus at all!

Will spend some time this weekend going through the procedure again and will then have to wait for finance to call in somebody to help.

Any suggestions welcome!

Steve
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jun, 2011 11:44 am Reply with quote
Ive been having this problem with mine since i brought it in november.

I havent found the cause yet, but I find most effective way to get the thing going is to do the following.

- Start Engine as normal
- When it konks out, leave the key in the full on position, then pop the hood and pump on the priming bulb for approx 15 seconds or so. (i used to turn the ignition off before doing this, which is far less effecive in my experiances).
- Return to the driving seat, and turn the ignition off - completley.
- Attempt to start it again, and it should catch on the first attempt, then drive off quick and hope you dont get stuck behind something slow before the fuel system gets to full pressure.

Thats my work around anyway let us know if you find a less lazy solution than mine  Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb, 2012 7:39 pm Reply with quote
Hi,

I have been having this problem with my 1.5d for about two years now, and have something for you that you might want to check.

After having a proper look under the bonnet, i found that source of the problem was the fuel filter housing itself.

I removed the air filter box to get a better view of the fuel filter housing, at the back of the housing (at the top just above where filter screws in) was a hole about the size of a 2p piece with a plastic thing inside it.

After filling this whole with blue tac and gaffer tape, my cold starting problems have been cured - which has been the case for around 6 months.

If anyone knows what the hole actually is and weather there's something more technical that can be shoved in it, i would appreciate it.

Cheers

J
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PostPosted: Tue 08 May, 2012 7:17 am Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Mon 14 May, 2012 4:12 pm Reply with quote
I think it holds a thermostat that warms the fuel when very cold. Can't remember if it controls coolant or diesel. QwickSteel epoxy putty works well at this sort of thing, once the metal is cleaned and sanded.
If it starts, the engine should be ok, but something is restricting the fuel flow to the pump.
If the squeeze bulb is collapsing, the fuel flow is restricted from the tank, so maybe there is a coarse filter on the pickup blocked with diesel bug slime, or used chipfat. Have fun.
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun, 2012 10:19 pm Reply with quote
So it's not only me that has the problem with that hole at the back of the filter housing. Mines started with an irritating cough owing to air in the fuel line when it's running because of this!
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